I just ordered DarkBASIC. In the past I have looked at DarkBASIC, but have refused to buy it. Not only am I cheap, I don't like updating products. But I just checked out the Game Creators website and noticed they are having what they are calling a Dark Game Studio Bonanza. So I shelled out the money. I mean, I spend more on games that I never play, so why not spend some money on something I'll tinker with for a couple years? I can't wait until it arrives.